one-on-one. he only plays team ball, but they, at that point he wasn't barack obama yet. they're like, sure. and by the way, so i played him two games of one-on-one, in between talked to him. 40 minutes, it was just unbelievable. but i realized that, oh, my god, if i, i can't, my whole conceit was you could learn about somebody by playing basketball with them, pick-up ball, what are they like, so on, so forth, how do they act? do they call tickky tack fouls? are they, i don't know, but, and so, but i realized i can't stop the game every point and write down what happened. [laughter]. so what am i going to do. this is "sports illustrated" where we're doing high-end stuff. i see my 13-year-old son, okay, you will film this for me. learn how to use the camera thing we found in the closet. like it was this old camera. he came with me to iowa.